Fenders Needed on Public Streetcars – August 16, 1897

Carter House hotel, 166 Water St, Vancouver

Council to write to the Tramway company reminding them that they are in violation of their contract with the City in not having fenders on public streetcars; also to the CPR asking them to not sound their whistles within City Limits and to slow down their traffic as much as possible.

This transcript was made in 2022 by Transcribimus volunteer Lynn Shane.

Illustration Source: City of Vancouver Archives
Item : Hot P1 – [Exterior of Carter House hotel – 166 Water Street]

Text Source: City of Vancouver Archives Series 31
Volume 7 pages 668 – 674

Click below to read or download the original handwritten minutes for this date (2 parts):

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Vancouver August 16th 1897.

The Council met on Monday August 16th 1897.

Present: His Worship, the Mayor and Aldermen Painter, Townley, McQueen, Neelands, Clandenning, Brown, W.S. MacDonald and D.G. McDonald.

The Minutes of last meeting were read and adopted.


From E.B. Morgan offering lumber and ladders etc for sale.
Referred to the Market Committee.

From W.J. Dowler, City Clerk of Victoria enclosing a resolution passed by his Council praying that the Dominion Government continue the Leper Grant and asking that the Council of Vancouver endorse such resolution.
Referred to the Finance Committee.

From the Matron of the City Hospital asking that some assistance be given out James Wilkinson, lately an inmate of the City Hospital.
Referred to the Health Committee.

From the Chief of Police reporting on the electric lights.

From Mr. Benjamin asking that the streets be sprinkled.

The following Reports were received and read:

Fire and Police Committee

The Fire and Police Committee met on Tuesday August 10th 1897.
Present: Alderman D.G. McDonald, Townley, McQueen and W.S. MacDonald.

The following accounts were recommended for payment:

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Robert Clark Supplies $1.00
S. James Interpreting 6.
City Grocery Co. Supplies 32.31
J.C. Woodrow “ 22.04
J.M. Stewart Transportation 10.
C.S. Philp Supplies 7.19
C.P. Telegraph Co. Telegram 2.23
Thos W Butler Expenses 2.25
Brackman & Ker Supplies 76.19
Wm Ralph “ 4.20
Evans, Coleman & Evans Supplies 4.75
H.M. Henderson Supplies 1.00
M. Rae Keep of Dogs 5.20
Thos Dunn & Co. Supplies 3.69
E. Clough Drayage 4.50
McDowell & Co. Supplies 3.05
Edwards Bros. Supplies 1.50
Malcolm McLean Expenses 3.00

Resolved that the City Clerk be instructed to write to Messrs Evans, Coleman to the effect that the coal they are furnishing the Fire Department is not satisfactory and asking that they carry out their contract.

Sgd D.G. McDonald

Moved by Alderman D.G. McDonald
Seconded by “ McQueen.
That the Report be adopted.

Finance Committee

The Finance Committee met on Friday August 13th 1897.
Present: the full Board.

The following account was recommended for payment:

Telephone Co. Rents $36.60

Sgd Jas McQueen.

Moved by Alderman McQueen.
Seconded by “ W.S. McDonald.
That the Report be adopted.

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Board of Works

The Board of Works met on the 12th of August 1897.
Present: Aldermen Painter, W.S. MacDonald, Neelands and Clandenning.

On motion Alderman Painter was appointed permanent Chairman for the balance of the year.


From the Deputy Minister of Agriculture enclosing copy of Act for prevention of the spread of thistles and asking the City to act thereon.
Referred to the City Solicitor for his opinion as to the course the City should take.

From Nelson Martin etal as to the condition of 12th Avenue Mt. Pleasant.
Referred to Alderman McDonald.

From Messrs Armstrong & Morrison offering the street-paving plant to the City, as the term of their guarantee has expired.
Referred to the Chairman and Alderman Clandenning in conjunction with the City Engineer to examine the plant and report.

Mr. Carter of the Carter House enquired how far a verandah without ‘posts’ could project over the sidewalk on brackets.
Resolved the Clerk look up the By-Law.

From H. Benjamin in reference to the need for street sprinkling.

From Mrs. E.A. Jones asking that obstructions placed by chaingang on lane in Block 42. [wood] be removed.
Referred to Foreman for Ward 5.

From H.J. Newton asking that the lanes between Robson & Haro and Nicola and Broughton be fixed.
Referred to the Foreman for Ward One.

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From J. Oben asking for a sidewalk on the Park Road.
Laid over for the present.

A. Clements submitted plans for a brick boarding house to be erected on Homer St. near Pender St.
Plans passed on being found by the City Engineer to conform to the requirements of the Fire Limit By-Law.
Permission granted to build the areas at lane as shown on plan to light cellars.

The following accounts were recommended for payment:

R.C.P. Mills Co. Supplies $80.98
Thos. Dunn & Co. “ 90.69
W.C. Marshall Buggy hire 4.50
S. Elkins etal Labor 1246.95

Resolved that the City Solicitor be instructed to have inserted in all future Contracts entered into with the City whereby labor is employed a clause making it obligatory on the sureties to recompense the City for the amount of wages due by the Contractor to his men in case the City pay such wages.

Sgd H.J. Painter

Moved by Alderman Painter.
Seconded by “ Neelands.
That the Report be adopted.

Water and Market Committee

The Water and Market Committee met on Wednesday August 11th 1897.

Present: Aldermen Brown, Painter, Neelands and D.G. McDonald.

The following accounts were recommended for payment:

W. Hooper etal Labor $675.85
John Boyd & Co. Supplies 19.50
Ivan Bushong Wiring 28.00

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McLennan & McFeely Supplies .60
B.C. Electric Co. “ $5.00
City Grocery Co. “ 2.90
Brackman & Ker “ 24.04
Thos Dunn & Co. “ 23.45
G.A. Roedde “ 16.50
W.C. Marshall Express hire .50


From John Parmiter, R.H. Cooke and M. Rockett, applying for the position of Foreman on the Market alterations in case such should be done by day labor.

Resolved that the alterations to the Market Hall be done by day labor and that Matthew Rockett be appointed Foreman over said work at a salary of $3.00 per day and that he have the privilege of hiring his men at the regular wages.

From John Oben, asking for water connections on Stanley Park Road.
Resolved that the matter be left to the Secretary to follow the usual course.

From Donald Ross, Secretary of the Trades and Labor Council asking that an architect be appointed to carry out the alterations to the Market Hall and that the work be done by day labor.

The following tenders were received for heating the Market Hall:

Smead, Dowd & Co. $975
Wm Ralph 1085.

Resolved that the tender of Smead, Dowd & Co be recommended for acceptance.

Resolved that the Committee express its entire satisfaction at the very efficient manner in which Messrs Armstrong and Morrison, Contractors for the new 22 inch main valves & fittings have fulfilled

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their contract.

Resolved that Aldermen Brown, Painter and D.G. McDonald be appointed a Sub-Committee with power to act, to supervise alterations to the Market Hall.

Sgd Wm Brown

Moved by Alderman Brown
Seconded by “ Painter

That the Report be adopted.


Moved by Alderman Townley
Seconded by “ Painter

That the attention of the Tramway Company be called to the fact that their cars are not supplied with fenders at each end as required for public safety and requesting the Company to have the same placed upon their cars.

Moved by Alderman Neelands
Seconded by “ W.S. Macdonald.

That the following account be paid:

F.E. Tilley Cemetery Clearing $200.00

Moved by Alderman McQueen.
Seconded by “ W.S. MacDonald.

That the City Clerk be instructed to write to the General Superintendent of the C.P.R. Co. calling his attention to the complaints of the excessive whistling from locomotives during the night and asking that same be abated and also ask that the rate of speed of trains passing through the city be moderated as much as possible.

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Reconsideration of By-Laws

Moved by Alderman Neelands.
Seconded by “ W.S. MacDonald.

That the By-Law to amend By-Law No. 32 be reconsidered and finally passed and be signed by the Mayor and City Clerk and the Corporate Seal affixed thereto.

The Council then adjourned.

W. Templeton

Thos F. McGuigan
City Clerk